How many 11-pointers do you have?

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 29, 2007 - 10:41am. ::

Alright all of you on the 11-pointer patrol! I want to know how popular the contestants are (outside the Quest). I'm curious how many comments from friends and family people have generated. I think I have 4 bona-fide 11-pointer comments. But I probably have a few more supporters who didn't leave a comment, but gave me some stars. What about you? ...

Submitted by Theresa Bakker on May 30, 2007 - 12:46pm.

Man, I'm sorry I missed the rest of that thread. I had to log off to put my kid to bed. I really am so the opposite of cool.
Thanks for the tips, Elizabeth. Yeah, I prefer to think secret admirer, too. It's not a creepy post. A nice one, actually. And the person is from my own state. She actually signed it, first name, last initial. I've been racking my brain trying to figure out who it is.
BTW, have I mentioned lately how much I love this? I have never been an IMer or a forum poster. Too wary of meanies and other bad guys. Here is much more personal. I guess that's what you get when you throw a party and only invite host-types!
Theresa

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 30, 2007 - 12:55pm.

You're in good company. I'm a newbie too. And I've been having a good time, though not sleeping (or doing my dishes) as much as I should.

ez

Submitted by Theresa Bakker on May 29, 2007 - 10:17pm.

I remember when I had no idea what they were. I felt like I was back in fourth grade and didn't know what french kissing meant. Luckily, none of you could see me turn red. Then I hung out for awhile with you cool kids, observed your habits, learned your lingo. Now I can follow almost any thread. So this is how it feels. Sigh. I'm in heaven.

It's interesting how different this quest is for those of us who've entered. Some are so active and fun, making plans to meet or debating the funding structure of public radio. Others have just posted a piece and probably have no idea that this conversation is still going on. BTW, when I first joined, I thought getting friends to post would be the only way to get a comment. I had no idea we would be supporting each other. I thought it was like the "employees of this contest and those participating are not allowed to comment." I've been plodding along since then, but still only have about 2000 points. I am slow!

So long answer short, I've got 3 or 4 11-pointers, but one is from a person I can't identify. Anyone else have one of those?

Theresa

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 29, 2007 - 10:38pm.

Hunh. That's weird. Could be a secret admirer. Check out their personal information on their account. You can click on their name and see what state they are from. You can also check the membership map. Maybe they are a friend of a friend, or something. Or, maybe a secret celebrity radio/tv producer who heard about how wonderful you are and wanted to check you out. ... I prefer that fantasy to the one involving a stalker. Good luck!

p.s. I once didn't know what "11-pointer" meant either. I asked around, even googled it. I thought maybe it was a term used by self-help book authors or psychologists or something like that. Heh. Turned out I was wrong, but maybe I may just start implementing it in my everyday speech. Perhaps we could get it introduced as a new word by the Modern Language Association (or whoever it is that approves new lingo), like truthiness and my latest favorite, crotch-fruit (meaning: children of large families. An English professor friend of mine introduced me to that one. I always imagine a cluster of grapes ... but I have no idea whether he just made this one up himself.)

ez

Submitted by lakeisha on May 29, 2007 - 11:02pm.

Are you for real? Never heard of it...that's funny, and disgusting. Okay, now I have to start using it in random conversation and throw folks off...It'll be funny to see expressions following that!
BTW, I din't know what 11pointers were either. Shoot, I admit I only recently learned what wtf, btw, and a few other email phases were:-

"If one is lucky, a solitary fantasy can totally transform a million realities."
---Maya Angelou

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 29, 2007 - 11:55pm.

Yeah, I'll admit it. I'm not a text messenger. Do it if I have to, but otherwise, it just seems silly. I'm a fast talker and a VERY fast typist. Maybe I'll change my mind someday. But anyway... I still don't know what a lot of those text-speak acronyms mean. There is one I just read and blushed because I still can't figure it out (they are like word-puzzles for the uninitiated). OK, what the heck does ROLF mean? I figured out BTW out of the context, but still don't know how to punctuate around it. This all makes me feel so old. I'm a tween, between Gen Y and X, and sometimes I feel older than I am (like in these instances) and at other times I relate to a completely younger crowd. Ugh.

I really want to be forwarded to the appropriate source so I could figure out what these short (handy?) phrases mean.

ez

Submitted by CourtenayH on May 30, 2007 - 12:13am.

Hey Elizabeth! Crotch fruit. That's...evocative. But oddly, not so provocative.

Here's a site with Text Messaging shorthand that's pretty helpful:
http://familyinternet.about.com/od/sharingonline/a/acronyms.htm

ROFL = Rolling On the Floor Laughing. There's also:
ROTFLMAO - Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

Some people use the "T," some don't. I actually never use them. I just type Ha!

I never text messaged until I..uh...well, I dated a 26 year-old guy recently. There. I said it.

The texting was fun. As was some other stuff.

I'm oversharing now.

I have 4 11-pointers, I think.
Courtenay

Submitted by Elizabeth Venable on May 30, 2007 - 12:55pm.

hahahahhahahahahah

My entry at Public Radio Quest:
http://www.publicradioquest.com/audio/user/7572

My College Radio Myspace (feel free to friend me!):
http://www.myspace.com/girlsongprimerradio

Submitted by jomki on May 30, 2007 - 11:43am.

It used to be that a good ROLF was the sound of one's stomache relieving itself via one's mouth... It was also the name of the dog piano player on the Muppet Show (I think). These young people today subverting the good old fashioned, classic onomatopoeias (and Muppet dog names).

I was going to add my two bits about the whole 11-pointer issue, but I think it's been pretty well hashed over. I have no 11-ers, but I know of one person for sure who voted, but did not leave a comment (10-pointer). Maybe that could be the new hot topic to rake over the coals. How many people voted for you and didn't leave a comment? Since this is something that we are likeley to know even less about it should make for good discussion, with both sides raging that they have the answer!

Submitted by Theresa Bakker on May 30, 2007 - 12:50pm.

I can't stop laughing 'bout that Muppet Show shout out. Yeah, his name was kind of like the sound a dog makes. I aslo know rolphing as that new agey full body treatment, but it's probably spelled way differently. Lot's of tweeners here, I see. ('Tween the generations marked X and Y.) I always thought it unfair that we got abandoned by the media that way.
TAB

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 30, 2007 - 1:14pm.

Yeah, totally ignored. Not quite a slacker, not quite a "why." Apparently the mid-70s represented a significant dip in birth-rates. My mom tells me she used to get chewed out at the grocery store for toting her two kids who were "sucking up everyone's air." Something to do with the environmental movement, fears about overpopulation and perhaps the lull before the storm, when the babyboomers started breeding. Always sucked in school, too. Public schools are funded by attendence, and I never had the cool electives the kids in the grades just above and just below me. What, photography? In high school. ... We were sharing books and brown bagging it, all the way.

ez

Submitted by Theresa Bakker on May 30, 2007 - 1:36pm.

I never really thought about that. Excellent idea for a story! You're right about sharing books. There was even one year when our annual musical production was cancelled for lack of actors and I assume, funding. Not that I'm complaining. I think it made us tough. Like you, going to the radio station and pitching your own position. That rules!
Theresa

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 30, 2007 - 2:10pm.

Heh, thanks. I just learned to ask for what I want. And this is a small enough town that they went for it. As for a story about the tweens, perhaps NPR is going to do that tomorrow. Today on Morning Edition, a guest reported on living without TV for a week and watching all his programs over the internet. Since I posted that on one of Q's polls as one of my "guilty secrets," I entirely expect there to be a new story about our Tween discussion on NPR. Or maybe your newly coined acronym, DIO, (Do It Ourselves, for those not yet in the know). I love this new idea even better than DIY, and I am a big fan of that movement. I think I might even like it better than watching free tv shows on-line. So, everyone spread the word. DIO culture is the next big thing!

ez

Submitted by Steve Stokes on May 30, 2007 - 12:59pm.

Steve

I’ve come to see that the ultimate source of all human anguish is that we are finite beings sentient of infinity.

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 30, 2007 - 12:30am.

Ha! I, too, just dated a 26-year-old guy, too. Funny. Why should we be embarassed? Any guy my age (31) would think dating a 26 year old is normal. But, the young beau didn't have his texting skills down. So, I never learned.

Thanks for forwarding the shorthand web-page!

ez

ps: I just googled crotchfruit. And, apparently it is not hyphenated, nor written as two words. And, I guess my friend wasn't making this up after all.

Submitted by CourtenayH on May 30, 2007 - 12:40am.

31? Dude. I'm so totally older than you.

Anyhoo, can't tell you how much I appreciate the clarification on the proper spelling and punctuation of "crotchfruit." (Known as Fruit de le Paquet en Francais.) Would hate to use it for months only to read in William Safire's column that I'd been misspelling it the whole time. Hello? Lifesaver!

Courtenay

Submitted by Elizabeth Venable on May 30, 2007 - 1:15pm.

... i dated a 30 year old and a 45+ year old. Ok, so that last one was a little bit older than I am used to, but not really too much. It becomes a lot more relative over time. I am all for women with younger partners. Except when i was in college I dated an 18 year old, and that I just couldn't handle, even though it was only like 3 years' difference.

Elizabeth

My entry at Public Radio Quest:
http://www.publicradioquest.com/audio/user/7572

My College Radio Myspace (feel free to friend me!):
http://www.myspace.com/girlsongprimerradio

Submitted by moijo on May 30, 2007 - 10:32am.

Bwaaahaaaahaaa! *gasps for breath* Bwaahaahaa!

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 30, 2007 - 8:55am.

Heh, well you never know ...
ez

Submitted by isthisthingon on May 30, 2007 - 10:37am.

Since we were so close to approaching that topic. : )

http://www.publicradioquest.com/node/1153

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 30, 2007 - 10:50am.

HA!
Ok, so you just put this image in my mind involving a speculum, ... And I will stop there, because it is really not appropriate.

ez

Submitted by Rich Meitin on May 29, 2007 - 3:04pm.

... in the context of the tidal wave of politics going on here already between the contestants. I feel like many of the comments I get are really motivated by other people wanting ME to go vote for THEM. So, in a way, I thing the credibility of MOST of the stuff written here should be taken with a very large dose of salt.

Ultimately, 9 of the 10 finalists are going to be picked by the pro judges, anyway. And they won't pick ANY losers - there are many talented people to pick from. If PRX does its subsequent promo properly, thousands of people will come here to pick from the 10 finalists, so driving a few dozen or even a few hundred friends to this site (if you are one of the 10) shouldn't matter all that much. Partly, it depends on what the exact rules are for distributing power between the judges and the voters. PRX has told us that we the voters will have "more" power as time goes on - but what does that mean, exactly? Unless we know what that means, we don't know exactly how important public votes really are.

Rich Meitin
www.richmeitin.com
http://www.publicradioquest.com/node/1038
Please stop by!

Submitted by chadbullock on May 29, 2007 - 3:17pm.

coming from someone with 20 11 pointers!!

Submitted by Rich Meitin on May 29, 2007 - 3:58pm.

Who cares? What's the difference, if the judges, who are picking 90% of the finalists, are only listening to the audio and are not factoring in comments? (That's what the rules say, BTW.)

And even if I have 20 loyal friends - and you have 2 or 200 - what's the difference if thousands of people are voting on the 10 finalists?

Moreover - if PRX were concerned about creating a completely level playing field, they wouldn't have allowed people to drive thousands of voters here via banners on personal websites or podcasts.

This whole thread is much ado about nada. Worry about your audio product - the voting will take care of itself!

Rich Meitin
www.richmeitin.com
http://www.publicradioquest.com/node/1038
Please stop by!

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 29, 2007 - 9:46pm.

That is a really valid point, and one I share (read to the end of the thread). I started this topic because I was reading A LOT of chatter in the forum debating the merits (or "evils") of 11-pointers leaving comments. I thought it was an interesting debate that was worthy of its own space. So I asked. (How hosty is that?) It is really fascinating to me how worked up some are about the 11-pointers, and I think it reveals different attitudes about the Quest. There are those focused on winning (goal oriented) and those focused on networking (process oriented), and of course a smattering of many who toggle between those two perspectives. Anyway, thanks for lending your voice to the debate. All comments are welcome here.

ez

Submitted by Steve Stokes on May 29, 2007 - 3:24pm.

Steve

It falls to the enlightened, and the intelligent and the sane to take responsibility for the deluded or doltish or insane.

Submitted by The Q on May 29, 2007 - 2:40pm.

I have a BUNCH.
Why is that a bad thing?

I told all my friends and family I was doing this and they came out to show support. I think it's great!

ADQ

Please and Thank You for your Vote:
http://www.publicradioquest.com/audio/user/6914

Keep on rockin' in the free world.

Submitted by Elizabeth Ziegler on May 29, 2007 - 1:40pm.

Full disclosure. 72 new comments from listeners, plus three 11-pointers (thanks Mom!) and 17 comments from me or responses to my responses from others.

ez

Submitted by Janean on May 29, 2007 - 12:19pm.

... out of almost 50 comments. Another theater friend searched out "theater" and listened to THOSE entries too ;-) Even commented here and there.
Thanks to everyone leaving comments! I appreciate it.

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Submitted by tamarakeith on May 29, 2007 - 12:19pm.

But he got hooked. In fact, as far as I can tell, anyone I have sent to the quest site has voted on a bunch of entries. Listening to these things is kind of like eating potato chips.