The story of what brought me to the Quest

Submitted by Steve Stokes on May 9, 2007 - 9:43am. ::

In early 2005 I heard of the return of This I Believe. A friend of mine, though I should put together a 500 word entry and share with the world something of my beliefs. So I did.
My submission was not selected.
In the fall of 2006 I tried again, with another essay. I had listened to many of the submissions and felt I knew what my original submission lacked. Again I failed to have my submission selected.
Well, participating in This I Believe, put me on their mailing list, and so it was through that list that I came to hear of this Quest. (For some reason my local NPR station is mum about the Quest.) So here again I saw an opportunity to try to get a message out about something I believe in. I thought I would share that 2nd TIB essay with you all.

Talking About The Examined Life

I believe in philosophic conversation, and I believe you should believe in it too.

You’re listening to this program, so I know you’re interested in living the examined life – the philosophic life. It’s nothing you do deliberately; you just seemed to have been born with this sense of wonder, or a “deep” thinking or reflective personality. Rather than just going through life, you hold life up for examination along the way. Like a sponge, you try to soak up as much wisdom as you can. You probably have a sense that in doing so you come closer to living the “good life” than those who seem to shuffle through life without such reflection. You’re probably right.

Now, let me ask you this. When was the last time you had a philosophic conversation? If you’re like most people, it’s been a long, long time, if ever. Maybe you have to reach back to your college days to remember talking about “life, the universe and everything” with someone other than the voice in your head. If so, then you’re missing out, getting cheated, shortchanged, and gypped, because I believe that the full benefits of philosophy can not be delivered in isolation. You can’t get the most out of philosophy all by your lonesome.

To be clear, by philosophic conversation I don’t mean a political conversation, or a sports chat, or comments on the weather. I’m not talking about exchanging domestic notes with the spouse on the kid’s chauffeuring needs, or the things that need doing around the house. Also by philosophic conversation I don’t mean the neighborhood gossip or family updates from your aunt Marge. Neither is a debate the same thing as a philosophic conversation. A debate is never philosophic.

By philosophic conversation I mean an open and honest exchange of thoughts on a philosophic topic. This for example is NOT a conversation. This is me expounding, elucidating, and exhorting and you hearing me. There is no conversing. A conversation would entail me saying something, and you responding with either statements or questions, and then me responding with statements or questions and then you responding… all very dynamic and very real time and very dynamic… did I say dynamic twice? Yes, and for a reason, this is what makes a conversation different than anything else… conversations can be dynamic.

For over seven years while I have moderated Atlanta’s Philosophy Café, I have learned that inherent in the philosophic conversation are these unique capacities:

Access to other’s points of view and reservoirs of information.

Multiplied brain power for the process of synthesis.

Sanity checking of one’s own ideas – its amazing how different an idea can sound when it is spoken out loud.

The opportunity to be provoked - it’s oh so hard to provoke oneself.

Likewise is the opportunity to be tickled. You know it’s impossible to tickle ones self.

And finally an unfailing source of inspiration. A few days after a Philosophy Café I can be guaranteed to experience flashes of insight.

Philosophic conversation is needed to give completeness to the philosophic process. Thinking about things philosophically is only half the philosophic exercise. You need to talk about those thoughts with others… to dialog with others to really examine life. It’s the difference between being a spectator and being a participant; the difference between watching Cousteau, and strapping on a SCUBA tank and jumping off the side of boat.

Philosophic conversation doesn’t come to us as naturally as philosophic living does. You’ll have to get proactive, either by joining a philosophic group, or maybe even starting one yourself. You’ll have to surmount your inhibitions. This is going to take effort on your part, but I encourage you to try it. I believe it will make a vast improvement in your life.

Submitted by Coach Lynn on May 17, 2007 - 9:27am.

This is a great thread (by the way, I miss the left side of the page too guys). What brought me to the Quest was being part of the community radio station here in Austin (91.7FM) and getting invited to the big "Public Talent Quest" announcement party by our local Public Radio station, KUT 90.5FM.

I really, really feel completely all thumbs when it comes to "meeting and greeting" type shin-digs like this, but actually did meet some interesting people and they had a group called "The Small Stars" to entertain us with some fantastic music.

That's the practical side of what brought me to the Quest. The real reason is that I love the radio. Love listening to it, love being on it, love interviewing people, love that feeling of being connected to a whole lot of people simultaneously.

I wish I had done something like this when I was a whole lot younger, but back then we barely had computers (used something called Alpha Micro to communicate with other sites) so my excuse is that I've lived life and now am going for the glory!?

Lynn Kindler, The "Idea" Coach
Please listen to my tape at http://www.publicradioquest.com/audio/user/52 and vote!!
www.sacredpathcoaching.com

Submitted by painkillerthepigeon on May 14, 2007 - 12:05am.

My my my, that is LONG. I'm pretty sure you're saying something, but as to what that may be, I haven't a clue. If writing something like this is jumping off the side of the boat, then YOU take the SCUBA gear and I'll drink a mai tai on the poop deck.
Chikka chikka...

Be Baffled By Bafflegab!-->
http://www.publicradioquest.com/node/1319

"All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy" - Spike Milligan

Submitted by Radiobrat on May 13, 2007 - 11:59pm.

That is about the biggest shovel of horsecrap I've ever seen in my life.

You need to get past your big'um Superego.

Superego does not wear a cape.

BOING!!!!

Submitted by Cathy Fink on May 13, 2007 - 9:59pm.

Love the idea of this thread. I got a phone call last week from a friend who heard about it on the radio & insisted I give it a whirl. That simple. I'm loving hearing the other entries. that experience alone is worth it!
Check'em out. 2 friends submitted
UNDER THE RADAR, OVER THE TOP
http://www.publicradioquest.com/node/1172

FAMILY FESTIVAL
http://www.publicradioquest.com/node/1175

Submitted by NDavis on May 13, 2007 - 11:27pm.

Cathy, you and Marcy are music partners -- folk artists! I LOVE your stuff and have for years. Have written about you two numerous times, for Music Monthly and City Paper (Baltimore).

Small world! Good luck to you both. And hoo-rah... more Marylanders!

(I had no idea Marcy went to clown college. That's cool.)

Natalie Davis
http://gdreadradio.net
http://www.publicradioquest.com/node/1068

Submitted by Suehyla on May 11, 2007 - 8:59am.

I had to smile at the question "When was the last time you had a philosophic conversation?"
Can't remember a day NOT having one...
I think most don't realize that's what we're engaging in because most think that philosophy is a passive thing... it's not. It's the cold shower to wake up your spirit past the snooze button purgatory one chooses. What one does after the conversation... well.... :-)

Thank you for being here.

Submitted by Steve Stokes on May 16, 2007 - 7:51am.

(Of course that open an entirely different can of worms!)

Steve

Submitted by Steve Stokes on May 17, 2007 - 7:14am.

Steve

We can philosophize together until the words fail us.

Submitted by DulanyPeters on May 17, 2007 - 8:07am.

Steve-

While I appreciate the durability of your views and your belief in exploring this subject, I can't help but feel that there is something slightly pejorative about your declaration, as though the rest of us aren't living "philosophical" lives. It's a bit like a sophomore in college who's just read Nietzche for the first time and judges all his friends for living as slaves to the dominant paradigm.

There is also something artificial about the need to constantly remind others that you are so philosophical. I've noticed that you are very active in terms of the message board and commenting on people's posts. I think that kind of community spirit is great, but I have to wonder: Are you doing it "altruistically" or because you want others to notice you/listen to your post/add comments, in some sort of quid pro quo kind of way?

Submitted by Steve Stokes on May 17, 2007 - 8:30am.

Not sure what you would have me do with them though?

Steve

What can the humble man assert?